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	<title>Comments on: Is DivX A Black Hole For Investors Or Are They Gathering Mass?</title>
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		<title>By: Davis Freeberg&#8217;s Digital Connection - DivX Goes To Wall St - Updates Investors At JP Morgan Global Tech Conference</title>
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		<dc:creator>Davis Freeberg&#8217;s Digital Connection - DivX Goes To Wall St - Updates Investors At JP Morgan Global Tech Conference</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2007 20:04:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] DivX continues to be one of the more exciting companies that is operating in the digital media space. While their business model is tough to understand, they&#8217;ve positioned themselves in an enviable position to have exposure to the growing digital market, but they&#8217;ve also been able to build a fairly secure competitive moat around their business by focusing on their community to help drive growth. While there is certainly a healthy degree of long term risk and short term volatility associated with investing in their business, if DivX can continue to perform at these levels, they should become the undeniable de facto standard for digital distribution for the 21st century. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] DivX continues to be one of the more exciting companies that is operating in the digital media space. While their business model is tough to understand, they&#8217;ve positioned themselves in an enviable position to have exposure to the growing digital market, but they&#8217;ve also been able to build a fairly secure competitive moat around their business by focusing on their community to help drive growth. While there is certainly a healthy degree of long term risk and short term volatility associated with investing in their business, if DivX can continue to perform at these levels, they should become the undeniable de facto standard for digital distribution for the 21st century. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Al</title>
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		<dc:creator>Al</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Feb 2007 08:07:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With regards to Flash, what most people fail to remember is that Flash does not come with Windows. At some point after installing your PC you went to one of the websites containing Flash video, and you clicked a box to install the Flash plug-in. From this point onwards Flash &quot;just worked&quot;, and you became one of the 96-97%.

Sooner or later, you&#039;ll visit many new pages using the DivX Web Player, and you&#039;ll click a box, and from that point onwards DivX will just work, and you&#039;ll join a rapidly growing userbase who have already done so.

The difference between the two formats is that although Flash might have high penetration on the desktop, that is the only place it has high penetration. In contrast, DivX also has very large distribution, but already powers consumer electronics devices everywhere. And once you start using DivX you find that the quality is better, and that you can play your content everywhere, and that you don&#039;t have to install all kinds of crazy tools just to be able to download DivX files from a website in the first place. How many times have you gone to lengths to work out how to grab a flash video from a page?

Content is powerful, and DivX makes the content experience better in almost every sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With regards to Flash, what most people fail to remember is that Flash does not come with Windows. At some point after installing your PC you went to one of the websites containing Flash video, and you clicked a box to install the Flash plug-in. From this point onwards Flash &#8220;just worked&#8221;, and you became one of the 96-97%.</p>
<p>Sooner or later, you&#8217;ll visit many new pages using the DivX Web Player, and you&#8217;ll click a box, and from that point onwards DivX will just work, and you&#8217;ll join a rapidly growing userbase who have already done so.</p>
<p>The difference between the two formats is that although Flash might have high penetration on the desktop, that is the only place it has high penetration. In contrast, DivX also has very large distribution, but already powers consumer electronics devices everywhere. And once you start using DivX you find that the quality is better, and that you can play your content everywhere, and that you don&#8217;t have to install all kinds of crazy tools just to be able to download DivX files from a website in the first place. How many times have you gone to lengths to work out how to grab a flash video from a page?</p>
<p>Content is powerful, and DivX makes the content experience better in almost every sense.</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis</title>
		<link>http://davisfreeberg.com/2007/02/09/is-divx-a-black-hole-for-investors-or-are-they-gathering-mass/comment-page-1/#comment-23237</link>
		<dc:creator>Dennis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Feb 2007 18:50:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the real question is what are the next five significant steps that the company needs to make to get closer to being a platform company.  Very thoughtful post however.  Please email me as I have some additional thoughts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the real question is what are the next five significant steps that the company needs to make to get closer to being a platform company.  Very thoughtful post however.  Please email me as I have some additional thoughts.</p>
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		<title>By: Smythguy</title>
		<link>http://davisfreeberg.com/2007/02/09/is-divx-a-black-hole-for-investors-or-are-they-gathering-mass/comment-page-1/#comment-20577</link>
		<dc:creator>Smythguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Feb 2007 21:02:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Davis I find it hard to believe that Google will go against the main stream content being Flash. Look at the new Disney site all Flash based content. Google needs to be main stream for the ad portion of the business and the flexibility to pull in content. As a user would you be happy with a divided standard? This is really about Adobe having control over web tools and the most widely accepted platform. I think it will be very hard for DIVX to crack that even if they come from the consumer side to try and back in. Even if they reach mass in the consumer market they won&#039;t be able to convert the main crowd in the developers and content providers. Stage6 is a direct attempt at the web market and at 3 million visits a month isn&#039;t an impressive number. Granted this is a new program but can you really say they have a chance against Adobe?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Davis I find it hard to believe that Google will go against the main stream content being Flash. Look at the new Disney site all Flash based content. Google needs to be main stream for the ad portion of the business and the flexibility to pull in content. As a user would you be happy with a divided standard? This is really about Adobe having control over web tools and the most widely accepted platform. I think it will be very hard for DIVX to crack that even if they come from the consumer side to try and back in. Even if they reach mass in the consumer market they won&#8217;t be able to convert the main crowd in the developers and content providers. Stage6 is a direct attempt at the web market and at 3 million visits a month isn&#8217;t an impressive number. Granted this is a new program but can you really say they have a chance against Adobe?</p>
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		<title>By: davis</title>
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		<dc:creator>davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Feb 2007 16:31:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeffery - Thanks for your viewpoint, as far as pricing goes, it is what it is and certainly if an investor isn&#039;t comfortable with these levels they shouldn&#039;t be in the stock because it&#039;s not likely to change anytime soon.  If you consider the total size of the potential market, then even at the low pricing, there is still a lot of money to be made.  As time goes on and DivX&#039;s control over their common media language strengthens, they can go back and squeeze the manufacturers, but that will be for when their market matures and they turn into a value stock, not when they are a growth company.

As far as the Google toolbar goes, it&#039;s not really an issue because DivX can always sell that ad space for another product or someone elses toolbar/plugin.  If people don&#039;t need google toolbar anymore, then they could just as easily sell an Alexa toolbar or bundle with another provider.  

I also think that there are other ways that their partnership with Google can grow.  Most importantly would be the use of DivX for YouTube and/or Google Video.  If this happened, the revenue DivX pulls in from the bundled toolbars will start looking like peanuts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeffery &#8211; Thanks for your viewpoint, as far as pricing goes, it is what it is and certainly if an investor isn&#8217;t comfortable with these levels they shouldn&#8217;t be in the stock because it&#8217;s not likely to change anytime soon.  If you consider the total size of the potential market, then even at the low pricing, there is still a lot of money to be made.  As time goes on and DivX&#8217;s control over their common media language strengthens, they can go back and squeeze the manufacturers, but that will be for when their market matures and they turn into a value stock, not when they are a growth company.</p>
<p>As far as the Google toolbar goes, it&#8217;s not really an issue because DivX can always sell that ad space for another product or someone elses toolbar/plugin.  If people don&#8217;t need google toolbar anymore, then they could just as easily sell an Alexa toolbar or bundle with another provider.  </p>
<p>I also think that there are other ways that their partnership with Google can grow.  Most importantly would be the use of DivX for YouTube and/or Google Video.  If this happened, the revenue DivX pulls in from the bundled toolbars will start looking like peanuts.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey</title>
		<link>http://davisfreeberg.com/2007/02/09/is-divx-a-black-hole-for-investors-or-are-they-gathering-mass/comment-page-1/#comment-20441</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeffrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Feb 2007 15:50:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem I have with DivX is the same problem I have with On2 â€“ it doesnâ€™t charge enough for its technology. I guess the theory is to get mass distribution first, and then raise prices. Thatâ€™s a flawed theory (unless youâ€™re a monopoly like Microsoft) and a major risk Iâ€™m not willing to pay a premium for. My second problem with DivX is that its agreement with Google, which provides a big chunk of its revenues (per the IPO prospectus) and an even bigger chunk of its profits, will wind down as the market becomes saturated with the Google toolbar. Take the Google revenue out, and the company is not growing top line revenues all that fast, and the bottom line takes a major hit. Again, do you want to pay a premium for this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem I have with DivX is the same problem I have with On2 â€“ it doesnâ€™t charge enough for its technology. I guess the theory is to get mass distribution first, and then raise prices. Thatâ€™s a flawed theory (unless youâ€™re a monopoly like Microsoft) and a major risk Iâ€™m not willing to pay a premium for. My second problem with DivX is that its agreement with Google, which provides a big chunk of its revenues (per the IPO prospectus) and an even bigger chunk of its profits, will wind down as the market becomes saturated with the Google toolbar. Take the Google revenue out, and the company is not growing top line revenues all that fast, and the bottom line takes a major hit. Again, do you want to pay a premium for this?</p>
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		<title>By: Smythguy</title>
		<link>http://davisfreeberg.com/2007/02/09/is-divx-a-black-hole-for-investors-or-are-they-gathering-mass/comment-page-1/#comment-20437</link>
		<dc:creator>Smythguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Feb 2007 15:34:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The article you wrote was very detailed from the DIVX stand point. I think the arguement you make for being portable is off base. Just because the device is portable doesn&#039;t mean that the DIVX download and software are portable. I for one agree that most people will not want to go download software to use the content being developed. This is the main point of Flash being so widely used. In fact the home consumer device sales are starting to shrink (including DVD players, Camcorders, and camera&#039;s) The shift is going to true mobile devices for video content and ad&#039;s. I definately give you kudos for writing about the video market. Maybe now you can do a story on the other players including ON2.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The article you wrote was very detailed from the DIVX stand point. I think the arguement you make for being portable is off base. Just because the device is portable doesn&#8217;t mean that the DIVX download and software are portable. I for one agree that most people will not want to go download software to use the content being developed. This is the main point of Flash being so widely used. In fact the home consumer device sales are starting to shrink (including DVD players, Camcorders, and camera&#8217;s) The shift is going to true mobile devices for video content and ad&#8217;s. I definately give you kudos for writing about the video market. Maybe now you can do a story on the other players including ON2.</p>
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		<title>By: DVLN</title>
		<link>http://davisfreeberg.com/2007/02/09/is-divx-a-black-hole-for-investors-or-are-they-gathering-mass/comment-page-1/#comment-20432</link>
		<dc:creator>DVLN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Feb 2007 14:59:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems all the ON2 fanboys trying to undermine freeberg&#039;s article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems all the ON2 fanboys trying to undermine freeberg&#8217;s article.</p>
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		<title>By: TW</title>
		<link>http://davisfreeberg.com/2007/02/09/is-divx-a-black-hole-for-investors-or-are-they-gathering-mass/comment-page-1/#comment-20404</link>
		<dc:creator>TW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Feb 2007 10:17:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If grandma needs DivX to watch videos of her grandson, sheâ€™ll take the time to download the software to get at them and DivX will gain another customer from the most powerful form of marketing you can do.&quot;

But if grandma doesn&#039;t even have to download a divx player because she belongs to the 97% of the people in this world that already have everything they need to watch their son&#039;s video, then she would be the happiest person in the world by not having to worry about another freaking application she gotta download and install. That is the power of Flash. When, and I do not say if, but WHEN Flash get on devices (as JT suggested), like STB and TiVO&#039;s etc, that competion for DivX is tough to being ignored by Mr. Greenhall.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If grandma needs DivX to watch videos of her grandson, sheâ€™ll take the time to download the software to get at them and DivX will gain another customer from the most powerful form of marketing you can do.&#8221;</p>
<p>But if grandma doesn&#8217;t even have to download a divx player because she belongs to the 97% of the people in this world that already have everything they need to watch their son&#8217;s video, then she would be the happiest person in the world by not having to worry about another freaking application she gotta download and install. That is the power of Flash. When, and I do not say if, but WHEN Flash get on devices (as JT suggested), like STB and TiVO&#8217;s etc, that competion for DivX is tough to being ignored by Mr. Greenhall.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://davisfreeberg.com/2007/02/09/is-divx-a-black-hole-for-investors-or-are-they-gathering-mass/comment-page-1/#comment-20403</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Feb 2007 10:06:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good article.
Some of the weight of your argument is that Divx is cheap(low priced).
I believe their being sued by AT&amp;T for using technology and not paying for it. Not good to have mass distribution and not know what it will cost?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good article.<br />
Some of the weight of your argument is that Divx is cheap(low priced).<br />
I believe their being sued by AT&amp;T for using technology and not paying for it. Not good to have mass distribution and not know what it will cost?</p>
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		<title>By: mediamaxmagnate</title>
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		<dc:creator>mediamaxmagnate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Feb 2007 04:44:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your article is interesting but as noted by another reply, fails to take seriously the gathering, ferocious storm on the horizon that is Flash Video. Every agency I know is scrambling to incorporate and train Flash video. Examples of its superior codec (from On2 Technologies) are cropping up everywhere. A good example is at abc.com.  Buckle up. No kidding, I have been astounded at miles-long leaps in quality that Flash accomplished. In my experience with DivX, there really is nothing exciting and I get the feeling that the company itself is too enamored with yesterday and today but has yet to look at the video locomotive call Flash that is barreling down the tracks with customers like me climbing aboard as quickly as possible as, afterall, it&#039;s what our customers and our bottom line demand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your article is interesting but as noted by another reply, fails to take seriously the gathering, ferocious storm on the horizon that is Flash Video. Every agency I know is scrambling to incorporate and train Flash video. Examples of its superior codec (from On2 Technologies) are cropping up everywhere. A good example is at abc.com.  Buckle up. No kidding, I have been astounded at miles-long leaps in quality that Flash accomplished. In my experience with DivX, there really is nothing exciting and I get the feeling that the company itself is too enamored with yesterday and today but has yet to look at the video locomotive call Flash that is barreling down the tracks with customers like me climbing aboard as quickly as possible as, afterall, it&#8217;s what our customers and our bottom line demand.</p>
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		<title>By: JT</title>
		<link>http://davisfreeberg.com/2007/02/09/is-divx-a-black-hole-for-investors-or-are-they-gathering-mass/comment-page-1/#comment-20361</link>
		<dc:creator>JT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Feb 2007 02:18:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If flash finds a way to let consumers move that content around the home, then it would be a more realistic threat&quot;

 Coming soon to a set-top box near you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If flash finds a way to let consumers move that content around the home, then it would be a more realistic threat&#8221;</p>
<p> Coming soon to a set-top box near you.</p>
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		<title>By: davis</title>
		<link>http://davisfreeberg.com/2007/02/09/is-divx-a-black-hole-for-investors-or-are-they-gathering-mass/comment-page-1/#comment-20349</link>
		<dc:creator>davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Feb 2007 00:39:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the comment.  Flash is an excellent streaming vehicle and believe me it will have an important role in the digital transition as well, but right now it can&#039;t complete the consumer eco-sphere because it&#039;s not portable.  

If flash finds a way to let consumers move that content around the home, then it would be a more realistic threat, but even then DivX has made too many in-roads to get frozen out of this market completely.

DivX isn&#039;t selling the ablity to stream video, they are selling the ability for YOUR video to talk to other devices that you own. This is very powerful, if they can achieve enough of a critical mass.  The more DivX media files that exist, the more powerful their monopoly over that consumer is.  This is why licensing DivX in digital cameras is so important.  If grandma needs DivX to watch videos of her grandson, she&#039;ll take the time to download the software to get at them and DivX will gain another customer from the most powerful form of marketing you can do.  The more media that DivX can control, the stronger their position gets.

Studies put the number of file sharers at around 8%.  A large percentage of these are DivX files.  Right now, legitimate or not there is more  content available on DivX, then any other format.  Manufactuers know this and are willing to turn a blind eye, if it means that they can tap into the percentage of the population that wants access to their DivX files.

With a billion cell phones sold last year, if DivX could just penetrate 5% of the total market, they would double their annual revenue with sweet sweet high margin cash.  If DivX can ultimately acheive the same market penetration rates as they have in the DVD market, then the cash flows start looking really interesting.

The iPhone is going to be hot, but Nokia and Motorola aren&#039;t going to just give up because Apple is so cool.  They are going to turn to the most common media language and right now it&#039;s DivX.  Microsoft has built real inroads, as has flash, but DivX also gets a seat at the bargaining table and investors should be asking what that opportunity is worth.  Considering how little DivX actually charges for each license, a manufacturer could support both flash and DivX, if that is what consumers demand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the comment.  Flash is an excellent streaming vehicle and believe me it will have an important role in the digital transition as well, but right now it can&#8217;t complete the consumer eco-sphere because it&#8217;s not portable.  </p>
<p>If flash finds a way to let consumers move that content around the home, then it would be a more realistic threat, but even then DivX has made too many in-roads to get frozen out of this market completely.</p>
<p>DivX isn&#8217;t selling the ablity to stream video, they are selling the ability for YOUR video to talk to other devices that you own. This is very powerful, if they can achieve enough of a critical mass.  The more DivX media files that exist, the more powerful their monopoly over that consumer is.  This is why licensing DivX in digital cameras is so important.  If grandma needs DivX to watch videos of her grandson, she&#8217;ll take the time to download the software to get at them and DivX will gain another customer from the most powerful form of marketing you can do.  The more media that DivX can control, the stronger their position gets.</p>
<p>Studies put the number of file sharers at around 8%.  A large percentage of these are DivX files.  Right now, legitimate or not there is more  content available on DivX, then any other format.  Manufactuers know this and are willing to turn a blind eye, if it means that they can tap into the percentage of the population that wants access to their DivX files.</p>
<p>With a billion cell phones sold last year, if DivX could just penetrate 5% of the total market, they would double their annual revenue with sweet sweet high margin cash.  If DivX can ultimately acheive the same market penetration rates as they have in the DVD market, then the cash flows start looking really interesting.</p>
<p>The iPhone is going to be hot, but Nokia and Motorola aren&#8217;t going to just give up because Apple is so cool.  They are going to turn to the most common media language and right now it&#8217;s DivX.  Microsoft has built real inroads, as has flash, but DivX also gets a seat at the bargaining table and investors should be asking what that opportunity is worth.  Considering how little DivX actually charges for each license, a manufacturer could support both flash and DivX, if that is what consumers demand.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://davisfreeberg.com/2007/02/09/is-divx-a-black-hole-for-investors-or-are-they-gathering-mass/comment-page-1/#comment-20343</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 23:51:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good article, BUT, you didn&#039;t mention, not once, FLASH.  Flash is 96% of computers, soon it will be on 96% of hand held devices, pretty hard to compete with. Sing with choir, or sing alone, and pray you&#039;re heard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good article, BUT, you didn&#8217;t mention, not once, FLASH.  Flash is 96% of computers, soon it will be on 96% of hand held devices, pretty hard to compete with. Sing with choir, or sing alone, and pray you&#8217;re heard.</p>
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