TiVo Has Hard Drive Failure - “Hooks Up” With Pay Per Post

October 3rd, 2007 Davis Posted in Marketing, Spam, Web 2.0, Disclosure - I own stock in co. mentioned, TiVo |

Bad TiVo No RemoteOver the years, I’ve seen a lot of different TiVo marketing campaigns. Some of them have been great and some of them have been bombs, but TiVo has never been afraid of taking risks, especially when it comes to generating publicity. Whether it was their funeral for the VCR or their ad throwing a TV exec out a window, they’ve been able to get pretty good bang for their buck, from the social web.

Despite my normal enthusiasm for TiVo’s PR stunts, their latest campaign has been a little over the top, for even my tastes. It started in late August, when TiVo issued a press release that declared that their new TiVo HD box, had all the features that people expect from a perfect companion. When I first read the release it was so syrupy, I could barely finish it.

I even almost wrote a snarky blog post, where I was going to point out that despite their claims, I’m actually looking for something a little bit different from my “hook ups”, then the family friendly criteria that they included in the PR fluff. Things like someone who won’t freeze up on me after I had been out drinking with the boys or someone with a pair of really big hard drives ;) or a companion that doesn’t get jealous when I play video games.

I ended up getting distracted and never wrote my post, but when I saw TiVo issue another lovefest press release, I just rolled my eyes and figured that I was in the wrong demographic to ever understand this one.

Normally, I wouldn’t have thought much more about this campaign, except while I was surfing YouTube, I came across several clips that appeared to be fan made videos expressing their excitement for the HD TiVo product. At first I actually thought that these were made by TiVo customers. There is definitely an indie feel to them. One of them actually does an amusing simulation of the world from TiVo’s perspective It wasn’t until I got to my my favorite video of the bunch :-) that I finally figured out why there was such a sudden rush of TiVo videos on YouTube. Of all the clips out there, this is the only one that I could find, that was honest enough to at least identify that it’s part of the Pay Per Post program.

Pay Per Post has been a very controversial company from the start. Because they pay individuals to make fake user generated content, that are really covert advertisements for sponsors, the FTC has even expressed some concerns over the truth in advertising issues related to their service.

Now I don’t think that there is anything wrong with TiVo paying someone to make commercials for them, but there is something wrong with conning consumers into believing, that they are witnessing legitimate testimonials when in fact, it’s really just a shill that is being paid to tout the product. If TiVo were requiring these video bloggers to put Pay Per Post on every video, I wouldn’t even see this as controversial, but 5 of the 6 ads that I saw, carried no warnings.

In the past, I’ve appreciated TiVo’s edginess in how they advertise. It may not always be to my liking, but I don’t mind them taking risks. This time though, they’ve crossed the line. By not clearly identifying this content as an advertisement, they have insulted the grassroots community that already spends so much time and effort evangelizing TiVo’s brand. By polluting their community with this vaporous buzz, they damage the credibility of every piece of user generated content, even if it really is being made by a legitimate fan.

If TiVo already had a terrible reputation or couldn’t get buzz to begin with, I could understand why they would stoop to this level, but their customers already love their products and spend plenty of time gushing over each and every little development. With as PR savvy as TiVo has been, it puzzles me why they would risk this kind of damage to their reputation, just so that they could get a few more videos up on YouTube?

If they really are proud of supporting these artists, why not put a big TiVo logo on the front of every clip and let YouTubers know that they are watching paid programming? If this was on the up and up, TiVo wouldn’t be hiding this, but because they want it to appear authentic, they’ve choosen to support Pay Per Post and let them do the dirty work.

As a member of the TiVo community, I love it when I see cool fan creations. It’s neat to be able to connect with other people who feel just as passionate about the TiVo experience. Over the years, TiVo has gotten a tremendous amount of grassroot support from the social net and to betray that trust is a huge blunder. By choosing to “hook up” with Pay Per Post for their latest ad campaign, they have introduced a toxic poison into the TiVoSphere that can only make it sick. TiVo needs to end this questionable form of guerrilla marketing, before they damage the credibility of their fan base any further.

12 Responses to “TiVo Has Hard Drive Failure - “Hooks Up” With Pay Per Post”

  1. Ethics aside, I’m not sure TiVo’s getting their money’s worth. Most of these videos border on unwatchable.

  2. Wow. Thanks for posting about this. I didn’t even know it was happening.

    It also rubs me the wrong way.

    Being a cynic, I occasionally hold onto hope that one or two companies aren’t trying to con me. Tivo has such a high user satisfaction rating, but they can’t seem to find a marketing campaign that really engages most outside of the cult of Tivo. Odd really.

    I hope Tivo realizes that doing things on the “down-low” hurts them more than it helps them.

  3. I wonder if this is TiVo’s doing or their PR agency? I’ve inquired and will see what they say.

  4. @Brad - I’ve got to agree with you on this one. To me it seems like there is such a limited upside to having these crappy ads out there and a lot of downside risk to engaging in this kind of hanky panky. Even if they ended up having a huge hit and getting a million views on YouTube, the price would have still been way too high. As it though, I’d be surprised if they end up getting 10,000 views and even more surprised if they even end up selling any boxes from such low quality ads.

    @Snarky - I hated posting this, I love TiVo more than just about anyone I know. I’m hoping that TiVo will take my criticism to heart and will end the program for the better good of their community. Normally I’m a cynic too, but as a longtime member of the cult of TiVo, I’ve always viewed their grassroots support as being 100% genuine. To see that part of that is being faked is very discouraging and forces me to re-evaluate my own commitment to a company that is willing to lie to their customers.

    @Dave - I thought about sending TiVo an email, but I tend to prefer to shoot first and ask questions later. The last time I asked for info from the company, they choose to ignore my emails, so I’m not very optimistic that they’ll even publicly address this shortcoming. Hopefully you are right and this is really just a mistake by some PR hack, but I’m not very optimistic that they are going to help you get to the bottom of this. If you even get an email back saying no comment, I’d be surprised. Hopefully I’m wrong and TiVo won’t be afraid to admit that they made a mistake, but if they try to ignore this, I think it will only end up making this blunder worse.

  5. I’ve confirmed they’re using Pay Per Post and this isn’t the first time. Not sure if it’s an agency initiative or coming direct from TiVo, but they wanted to build awareness virally and feel this is a legit method.

  6. I’m glad that they gave you an answer Dave, but I find this really disturbing. It really makes me wonder how many blog posts or YouTube videos that I’ve linked to, that were really just advertisements. If they are trying to build traffic virally, then this is a terrible strategy to employ. Over the years, I’ve been a very vocal advocate for TiVo and would argue that my activity alone has generated more traffic to TiVo then all of their PayPerPost ads. Even if I end up being the only that drops coverage of TiVo over this, then they end up losing out. If other members of the TiVo community feel just as insulted, then how is this going to help them in the long run? If they lose their customer evangelists, then it will impact every advertising campaign going forward. This seems like such a stupid risk to take, when they are in such an enviable position to begin with.

  7. “I hated posting this, I love TiVo more than just about anyone I know.”

    Oh yeah.. you need to step off your bad self. You sir - I challenge to a tivo duel!

    Just kidding.. but it sounded funny in my head.

  8. Dual on - I just checked and have 78 shows in my Season Pass manager. 10 of them are probably wishlists and there may be a few discontinued shows, but at least 60 are legit.

    As far as getting over my bad self, you are right and I do have a tendency to over react to things, but over the last few years, I’ve spent a lot of time finding and blogging these grassroots things and it stings to think that these sources may not be as authentic as I came to believe. I will of course get over this, but TiVo really is better off by abandoning this strategy, because in the long run, it will threaten their reputation for having such an amazing product.

  9. I want to emphasis I completely agree with you that what Tivo is doing is wrong. And annoying. I didn’t mean to offend. I see you are still annoyed at the topic and I was being playful.

    P.S. You can’t imagine what a competitive girl I am. Dual still on?

  10. Davis, you’re more powerful than you realize. TiVo just killed their PayPerPost program.

  11. Oops….? Lol glad my video was your favorite. I figured it was best to include that it was a PPP video… didn’t know it would kill the whole thing, but it’s better to be honest, in my opinion.

  12. @ Zatz - It’s not me that is powerful, it’s all of the other TiVo fans who weren’t afraid to call BS when they see it. Without their support, TiVo never would have seen this post in the first place.

    @ Sarah - I didn’t mean to single your video out, and am glad that you at least included the PPP warning. I wouldn’t feel bad about the campaign being pulled if I were you. Sooner or later, someone else would have included the bumper and you would have seen the same response. I’m not sure why you’d want to be supporting pay per post to begin with, but can at least respect that you are making the proper disclosures.

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