Comments on: Forget Radio Shark, The Stream Ripping Piranhas Were What The RIAA Should Have Been Worried About

By: Peter Nelson

Peter Nelson — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 16:32:14 +0000

“Recording individual songs to replace a music collection is stealing music, ethically and legally. ”

I’ll leave the ethics up to the philosophers but it is definitely NOT illegal. I suggest that Bill Moore and any other interested parties familiarize themselves with United States Code Title 17, Chapter 10, Subchapter D -”Prohibition on Certain Infringement Actions, Remedies, and Arbitration” Â§ 1008. “Prohibition on certain infringement actions”

Other provisions in copyright law require that artists receive fair compensation for for their work, but no one, not even the RIAA ,has suggested that the onus for this falls on the consumer who rips the streams. Instead, it has been a point of contention in negotiations involving SoundExchange, where the implication is that internet radio stations that do not implement anti-stream-ripping provisions may be forced to pay higher fees in order to compensate the artist.

As things stand now there are internet radio stations all over the world with high bitrate (256-320 kbps) MP3 streams with no cross-fading or talking over the songs that make themselves a stream-ripper’s paradise. It’s easy to see why the music industry is unhappy about this, but under current law individuals who rip streams from these stations to build their music collection do not appear to be violating any laws.

If Mr Moore feels that stream ripping is illegal perhaps he could cite the relevant portions of the law.

By: Bill Moore

Bill Moore — Thu, 20 Dec 2007 14:42:10 +0000

Songs and radio are different media.

Recording individual songs to replace a music collection is stealing music, ethically and legally. Time-shifting a block of radio to listen later is legal. But radio is more than a playlist with DJs and people. Our company makes RedButton (Windows) and powers Radioshift (Mac), are both commercial products that compete with Raima. But neither are focused on ripping songs.

By: Davis

Davis — Thu, 20 Dec 2007 01:06:15 +0000

Thanks Bean – I can’t tell you how great it is being able to tune into your show again. It’s something that I’ve been trying to figure out how to do for a long time. You and Kevin are two of the funniest comedians out there and even though its been 10 years since I last tuned in, the show is still just as funny as it was a decade ago. I’d love to see you take your show to the national stage, but there is something special about all of the local jokes. Keep up the great work and thanks for commenting.

By: Bryan Villarin

Bryan Villarin — Thu, 20 Dec 2007 00:25:52 +0000

Sweet, I think I’ll try Raima Radio.

@Bean — Is that really you?!

By: bean

bean — Wed, 19 Dec 2007 18:07:17 +0000

thanks for the kevin and bean shout out! and for the raima tip. i’ll check it out for sure…..